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And what if the scenario is a nuclear war in your backyard?

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Even if the war isn't in your country, any kind of significant nuclear exchange elsewhere in the world will affect the entire globe. You never know what might happen. Of course, you hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. So, how do you prepare for the worst? Things you'll need: Water. In case of aquifers running hundreds of feet below surface, how to get it without electricity Grow food. There's only so much canned food you can store Cooking. I really like rocket oven. But anything else? Maybe electricity? But do you even need electricity?

Air conditioning in high humidity and temps over during the day and around 80 during the night. Heating in the winter. I like that rocket heater doesn't produce smoke and so it doesn't attract attention from miles away. Hygiene Entertainment Animals? How many chickens can you raise with paddock shift design? Rain water collection Radioactivity testing?

Heavy metal testing? When you're on your own, you don't have access to these things probably unless you prepare beforehand. Then you'll need electricity. LOTS of electricity. I'm guessing building a sizeable green house. How to harvest wind power? Alternative fuel for your car? You can make a fortune selling it to others I presume. They say it takes a football field worth of garden to feed one person for a year. Can you squeeze that into a much smaller space? A food forest where food grows vertically? How to obtain salt?

Anything else I didn't mention? Eat bugs? Which bugs? How to grow them? How to cook them? I mean if you're hungry I guess you lower your "ew" threshold. In case of a nuclear war, can you keep bees underground? Tyler Ludens. The only possible way to be totally self-sufficient, in my opinion, is to go full caveman, including a band tribe social group on a piece of land large enough to live by hunting and gathering. Roberto pokachinni. What I mean is that Permaculture has as it's goal the development of a permanent culture, but it is doing this to build a better world by design for the long term.

We do this, in my view, because it's high time we took into account our ecological footprint and our inherent ability to live on this planet without harming it. This is an intellectual and perhaps for some a spiritual decision, but it is not based on fear. Fear is grasping. Permaculture is about giving back. Therein lies the dichotomy, the split, in my thinking on it.

Survivalism might have much the same basic designs, but the reason for doing so is, in my opinion, basically selfish, but it might not feel that way to the person doing it. I say that it is selfish, not as a bad thing, but because it is based on personal self preservation, and that is based on a emotional response to the fear of theft, destruction, loss, violence et cetera, rather than on the larger needs of caring for the Earth or the greater long term humanitarian needs to build a better world.

The survivalism mentality is never ending, and as such there is no relaxation, it is like a rat on a wheel in a cage, spinning away, and never getting anywhere really productive for even the person doing it. That's just how I see it, from my own experience. When we make decisions out of fear we are not making our best decisions. That is flight or fight. It is high stress, and shock, and lashing out sort of response to the situation. In contrast, we need that relaxed feeling to make better decisions, and figure out why it is that we really want what we are thinking we want, and coming up with a plan to make it happen that makes better sense for our emotional self.

Permaculture might still be selfish in a way; since a person is often doing this so that they can have their needs met, primarily. The difference, I think, for Tyler, but certainly for myself, is that with this slight change in emotional investment, there are rewards that are present that are less tangible than this tenacious but inexhaustible chasing down of every last bit of fear with bits of preparedness in myriad directions.

Survivalism seems to have the idea that it can alleviate the presence of risk to these numerous threats. But that, in my view, is a myth. These problems are not surmountable on the personal level by each person having everything. It's a nice goal, in a way, to be completely self sufficient, but it is not likely or easy to accomplish. Not that permaculture is easy, per se, but it is not fraught with the pressing down demand that all of these things be done NOW in order to push the fear of these unknown and myriad potential problems away.

Life is not without risk, and never can be. We can chose to make our lifeways flow in conjunction with natural laws, and help and hope others catch on to the positive changes, and that's it. Do what you can to build resilient systems, in all aspects of your life, including building community so that you are networking and have more collective resources and the ability to meet your and communal needs.

Nick Kitchener. Personally, I think you are asking the wrong question because it drives you to a set of solutions that are all inherently flawed in that under a ZA scenario might is right. Maybe a better question would be "In the event of a zombie apocalypse, what can I do to make me and my family indispensable? The mad max scenario even conforms to this although it's not highlighted in the movies so much. The warlord and their enforcers need supplies, shelter, essential services, and a certain amount of luxury to maintain control over a territory.

They get these things from the citizenry who live within the territory they control. In return, the citizenry gets protection, peace, and insurance against disaster for example the warlord will often provide storehouses for excess non-perishable food and materials. The warlord makes sure they take care of their people, because if they don't, the people will leave and seek refuge under the protection of a competitor or they will not support the warlord when a competitor attacks as they are seen as a liberating force.

Sure a warlord can bully the citizenry like in the movies but in reality this tactic doesn't scale. So in a ZA scenario you will be a warlord unlikely , a soldier, or a "surf". Since you're in this forum, the chances are you would rather be a surf. In this way you will place yourself in a position to receive special care and attention since you will be considered a valuable asset within the territory, and these warlords control territory because of the assets that reside in them. Anne Miller. I have been doing food storage for more than 20 years so I have it down to a science.

We have a propane tank for cooking and heating. We also have lots of wood for when we run out of propane and a wood stove for heating and cooking. We have a gallon water storage tank, currently full, for rainwater catchment. We have solar panels and all the equipment to set it up. Various candles, lanterns and other miscellaneous. Canning equipment. Hi Tatiana And if you had the possibility to buy a new piece of land and build everything on it from scratch, how would you design it?

This will result in a much more resilient global society in general, which is what is needed in order to survive natural or political disasters. As far as designing and developing a piece of land that can feed and house you indefinitely, I would recommend looking at This webpage , and consider ordering their first book, Miraculous Abundance.

This is not a 'how to' book, but more of a memoir of how they came across their various ideas, but the inspiration towards very efficient permacultural food production is without parallel, and they give a list of the resources that connected them to this path of sustainability. It is a good start to read such a book, not only because it is full of great ideas-but because it is super positive-and then follow up researching the things that they are referring to.

Their next book, due out in French later in with an English translation to follow, is going to be all about detailing the specific techniques and tools that they use. I will order the English version as soon as it is available. In the meantime, Elliot Coleman's 4 season Harvest available through inter-library loan is a good place to start on figuring out how to grow in this direction. Elliot bought land from Helen and Scott Nearing, whose own book Living The Good Life is also available through the library, and is well worth the read to figure out what you really should be focusing on.

Another thing that I would suggest is to take baby steps. There is a mind frame that comes with being truly prepared to deal with anything, and that has to be developed like a muscle that is weak. Our society is full of weaklings in this regard, myself still included. But I am developing that sort of mind, and as I do I notice just how far I need to go.

One thing that helps to begin to develop this mentality is not to consider so much of what we need, but what we can do without. We are incredibly spoiled in our culture, and have many 'needs' that are not needs at all. Most of the global population does not need the majority of the stuff we have, and in fact our lifestyle and abundant consumption was foreign to our own quite recent ancestors.

As an example, I met my own needs in a small cabin without a vehicle, propane, electrictiy, running water, et cetera, for a couple years on what was considerably below the poverty line as far as income went. I lived like a king, since I had a roots and greens low maintence garden, a seafood harvesting permit, and the skills to get wood and fix a bicycle.

I also was developing skills that would allow me to camp permanently as a nomad in the forest, if it came down to having to leave my cabin for some unknown political or natural reason. By lowering our expectations of what we need, we gain massively in the time that we have to consider everything else.

I sat a lot in my hammock reading, and did a lot of walking on the beach and in the forest. My life improved considerably by 'doing without' much of the things that people in our culture tend to think they need. My job, as a small project carpenter and landscaper could be done with a bike and trailer, and was going to be needed even if the unstable thing known as 'the economy' collapsed.

If the Shit Hits the Fan, I suspect that a lot of people that survive the initial chaotic bullshit will end up living a lot simpler. Dan Grubbs. The better question is about making the people of a homestead self-sufficient. This alternative is needed when either a civilian force or a government force is, at some point, going to come for your land and operation. The timing of this depends on the duration of the SHtF scenario and your proximity to population centers.

No, contrary to what tens of thousands of survivalists believe, you will not be able to out gun or defend your property should a motivated force leadership decides they want your operation. Even if several well-armed families band together and train properly, regional authorities or even a civilian force will only attempt to take your property with superior firepower. Yes, you may encounter a scouting group, but once the larger force or authority learns of your resources, they will come with force enough to take what they want.

Dying does not constitute successful defense of your property. You could possibly make yourself and your family indispensable in some way. But, growing food and managing animals is not an indispensable set of skills. I know that may bristle some feathers here at Permies. But, those skills will already be in the attacking force or within the collective supporting them. Yes, these are good skillsets to have, but you are not indispensable as one farmer. You need to find something else. Even then, however, you are at the mercy of the warlord or local government leader.

My thinking is that to truly survive and not be subject to some power or force is to be mobile. One writer refers to it as going gypsy. Bugging out is usually to get you to a planned destination, which then you are again subject to the external force, no matter how well trained your family is. Your food supply has to be mobile. Since you can only carry very little food and water, your ability to forage is key.

These are some of the best skills you can acquire on your homestead now, more important than than say, auto mechanic. In addition to foraging, in my opinion, goats are one of the best mobile options for fresh food supply dairy, meat. I think goats are better choices than small cattle or sheep, which are both more difficult to move clandestinely and more picky about their feed.

Goats are good foragers and can be better managed in a mobile situation as you have to move from place to place to avoid external forces. Goats eating leaves from trees are theoretically going to provide more mineral nutrients than purely grass-fed grazers — arguably. Once the external force has either exhausted the resources of your property or lost interest they may leave it.

You may have an opportunity to return. However, your risk of discovery is pretty high once you plant yourself back there. Going gypsy means that your value system is not based in your land but in the people of your family or mobile group. Where you are on any given day serves as either a resource or as cover; it is not your home. Going gypsy is on foot. Vehicles are loud, require fuel and maintenance, and most require some kind of roadway and are easily spotted. Your homestead is whatever you can carry or lead.

Not everyone will be cut out for gypsy survival. Some will submit themselves to some authority or new collective.

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Some will resist an external force and may or may not survive. Some will be in a remote enough area where they may not ever encounter an external force. For the rest of us, I believe only by evasion will independent individualists survive. In my opinion, mobility is the way to survive a widespread SHtF scenario. Peter VanDerWal. Guns and Ammo, because there is no such thing as a "friendly" apocalypse. There is no sense in planning to be civilized when civilization goes out the window.

Terri Matthews. Because an acre of land is not usually enough land to provide you with both enough calories to eat and wood to burn to cook those calories. Walmart sells buckets of rice that are packaged for long term storage, and camping supply houses do sell long underwear. Some clothing stores do as well.

That would not be enough, but it would help me through some types of SHTF.

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Sonja Draven. I agree with Tyler and Roberto. Having more children than they could support. Living in fear and poverty. Alienating friends and family. I would rather be somewhat unprepared IF it happens than look back on my life seeing a wasteland of joy. Or having someone hundreds of years from now reading my journals and shaking their head because of the waste I had made of my life - and the end times STILL hadn't come.

Terri Matthews wrote: some buckets of grain. I bought a bunch of dry beans and rice that we never ate. The beans got so old they wouldn't even sprout when I finally threw them into the garden. So my suggestion is to store food you actually eat and eat it regularly, rotating it to keep the supply as fresh as possible. Otherwise you might just waste a bunch of money like I did.

We never did like to eat dry beans. I know that beans and rice make a complete protein, but we do not really eat dry beans so I never stored any. I bought such big bags of rice that it got all nasty and stale before we ate it. So, rather than buying "bulk" sizes of food for cheap, I recommend buying the sizes you actually consume.

One solution would be to repack the rice into single serve mason jars and vac seal them. I'm more a homesteader than a prepper, but in either realm there is no such thing as too many Mason jars. As you eat the rice, the jars go back into rotation. Nicole Alderman. Surviving an "apocalypse" is something I've mused about since I was probably And then I started homesteading.

And had two kids. And my husband had horrible, debilitating Crohn's flare-up, and my daughter was hospitalized, and there were tons of medical bills, and a constantly tantruming son. And, well, it sure felt like the end of the world. It was crazy difficult. I have 5 acres. I have ducks and a garden. But, the thing is, when disasters happen, they're disasters. You don't have money or time to do things like figure out how to grow food. You might not even have your heath, or will be tending to someone else because they lost their health.

These aren't the things we like to think about when we think about zombie apocalypses. But, well, it seems to me that an apocolpse looks a lot like poverty and no good, horrible, very bad days. I'll quote them here: Things I've done that have been invaluable; - hunting large and small game alike - you learn so many skills and become aware of so much you never thought of before - joining a random animal tracking group on facebook - i didn't even know I had a passion for it, but I can't turn off "tracker vision" anymore.

With one acre, I would start now with growing food and caring for livestock. Plant perennial fruit and nut trees and learn to care for them now, so they'll hopefully be producing. Build garden beds and try to grow things in them. Try to make everything as low maintenance as possible, because when bad times comes, you'll probably have a lot of other things to do than gardening inefficiently.

Learn as many skills now as you can, because, once again, during a disaster, you probably won't have time to stumble through those things. Learn to mend clothes and maintain tools. Learn basic building and plumbing and electrical if you can--so you can fix what you have without spending money that will likely be scarce.

Let me see if I can answer your questions one by one: Water. In case of aquifers running hundreds of feet below surface, how to get it without electricity If you have a well, I would get this: FloJack's Earth Staw It's flexible, relatively affordable and will bring up that water without electricity. Grow food. There's only so much canned food you can store Focus on fruit and nut trees that grow well and easily in your area. This will save you time, labor and resources: you won't have to do more than harvest and prune, so you'll have time to do all the other things.

PLant edibles under the trees, like strawberries and chives and garlic--this will provide you food and help keep the grass away, making the trees healthier. Grow potatoes or sweet potatoes--they're pretty easy to grow and give you the most calories and nutrition for the energy you invest in them. Berries are full of antioxidents and tasty to eat, and grow well in many areas. I love my wood stove : it heats the house in the winter and I cook on it while it's going. I'd love a rocket oven for summer use! Light is nice.

I would get some hand-crank radios and flashlights, if nothing else. Electrify is also great for freezers. If you have a generator or solar panels and can run one thing, run the freezer. The shade will help cool without using the money and electricity that might be hard to find much of.

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Efficient wood stoves also make little smoke if you burn dry wood and do it right. You might not be able to install a rocket heater depending on regulations in your area. If you can't, get a woodstove and learn how to cook on it and start fires with little smoke. Hygiene Clotheslines are good I use one now! You can also try to learn how to make soap from wood ash.

Entertainment Ha! Who has time for this in a disaster. I guess it depends on the type of disaster, though. I'd go for whatever your family likes best, be it reading stories outload, making up storties, playing music, playing cards , playing board games , carving things, knitting things, etc. Remember, whatever livestock you have, you'll have to feed.

They eat a lot. My ducks eat a cup of feed per day per duck, and they have 3 acres they range over. If they get less feed than that, they don't make eggs. On one acre, you might be able to grow enough feed for 3 chickens or 3 ducks. Rabbits might be a better choice for protein I've not raised rabbits , especially if you're trying to raise protein inside. A good idea! I would love one! Rain water collection Metal roofs are good for that, and the metal is longer-lasting and more fire-resistant than many other roof types.

And requires less maintenance! Once agian, in a disaster, you probably will have enough other things to worry about than a leaking roof! Radioactivity testing? A good idea. A green house is a good idea, and a good way to buffer against climate change. Just make sure to build it right so as to prevent mold issues! I've not built one Do you have wind where you are? I don't at my place, and there's a neat thread here about how small wind turbines aren't worthwhile , especially if you don't have strong winds.

Some diesel engines run on cooking oil You could always just buy a two 55 pound bags of sea salt and be good to go for yeaaaaaars. It doesn't go bad, so it's not like you're wasting it by getting it. Get kosher size so you can easily use it in pickling recipes and other food preservation recipes that call for kosher salt. I like to buy my salt from Saltworks--they have reasonable bulk prices.

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Here's their most affordable sea salt. They also have Himalayan salt, and lots of other yummy and unique salts. Practice skills and get good at fixing things so you have time to do all the other things. Plastic sheeting and tape for windows to seal them off in case of a "Shelter in Place" event. Figure out where in your house has the most layers of shielding, and figure out how you can pile up furniture to get even more protection from nuclear fallout.

Supposedly pill bugs also known as wood lice and potato bugs are crustacians like shrimp. Grasshoppers are also edible. No idea! A few things that I have done that I have not seen mentioned: Learn to identify all the edible plants that are growing on your property. You might not want to eat them now but in a disaster they might look more appetizing. Learn how to can and to preserve meat. Learn about medicinal herbs and how to use them. Learn first aid. Learn how to stop bleeding, sew up deep cuts, take care of burns, set broken bones, etc. Learn how to take care of dental issues for when there is no dentist.

Get or better make a good first aid and dental kit. Invest in some "how to " books for when the internet is not available. Or get some ebooks and print them out now. Travis Johnson. I completely agree! I have guns and can defend myself, but when I read of survivalists and some of their ideas I just shake my head. I know what would happen in reality, neighbors being hungry would just go to a preppers house, wait for them to be hoeing the garden, and unable to reach for a gun, take them out and steal all their food anyway!

When a person gets into "what if" situations it spirals so far out of control that all it does is start anxiety. To prepare for a natural disaster or two is one thing, but to somehow think plans will work out in utter society chaos probably won't. It is always better to live with hope then to live in fear Darren Watts. Return to Book Page. Preview — Off the Grid by George Milonas. Off the Grid Zombie book of survival by George Milonas.

Physically and emotionally wrecked, Mike just wants a vacation in the Florida Keys with his two beautiful daughters. Unfortunately, he gets far more than that when walking corpses begin to threaten the lives of those he cares for most. Teamed together with unprepared, ragtag natives who only want to return to their everyday lives, he leads the fight against the Zombies' ap Physically and emotionally wrecked, Mike just wants a vacation in the Florida Keys with his two beautiful daughters.

Teamed together with unprepared, ragtag natives who only want to return to their everyday lives, he leads the fight against the Zombies' apocalyptic extermination of everything human. With his annihilation all but assured, Mike goes off the grid in the most beautiful setting imaginable - and leaves behind a merciless trail of Zombie obliteration. George Milonas is a practicing Pediatrician in Racine, Wisconsin.

He is happily married to Jennifer and is the father of Anna, Emma, and Matthew.

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